I don't expect people to be able to go 18 Str, 16 Dex, 14 Con with stats left for mentals. The only reason to Str TWF is using combat maneuvers, specifically Knock-Down, which requires 13 Int to boot.īut you need obscene stats to pull that off. Scimitar + Kukri if crits are your thing). Weapon damage dice are largely irrelevant one feat to increase your offhand weapon damage die by average 1 damage is not worth it (you can already wield e.g. You can dual-wield Kukries just the same. Not to mention, Shadow Blade gets you full Dex to damage on both hands while you only get half Str in your off-hand. He can wield a longsword in one hand and a shortsword in the other, or he can grab Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting and dual-wield scimitars for crit-fishing or dual-wield longswords for DPS.What? You do realize TWF-line requires 15-19 Dex, right? It's not trivial to get 15-19 Dex and maximize Strength, especially if you need to get +4 Dex item by level 12 (that's a massive amount of your WBL). Meanwhile, a Str-based warblade needs only the TWF feats, which he can qualify for easily by putting his secondary ability score into Dexterity and getting a +4 item. What's the point of being Dex-focused when you have to spend MORE feats on it? The swordsage gets no bonus feats, already has low BAB, and is limited to what weapons he can fight with using both Shadow Blade and Weapon Finesse (in addition to Two-Weapon Fighting, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting). One good thing is Weapon Finesse may not be neccesary since your BAB is higher.īoth get access to Tiger Claw and thats the quintessial TWF school, so you have that going for them either way. Your going to have issues taking later TWF feats because your pretty MAD. Good BAB, Fort save (rare on a TWF), and Str focus so you have better use of Power Attack (still less than 2-hander though). Warblade has Iron Heart and White Raven which is awesome no matter what you plan on doing. Early dips in Rogue, Psionic Rogue and later dips in SA PrC will give you access to decent SA ability. Swordsage would be useful for its already Dex focused, easy access to Shadowblade feat (Dex to Damage yay!), and Assassain's stance. Swordsage base, dip Warblade for extra BAB, HP, and to grab Iron Heart and White Raven manuevers. Warblade base, dip Swordsage for Shadowblade and Assassain's stance and possibly Wis to AC. That taken care of, my suggestion.Įither way, a dip in the other would serve as a useful dip. Not sure what would happen if you couldn't.Well first make sure you can do Two-Weapon attacks with strikes. If you already knew every Lv 1 to 3 White Raven and Stone Dragon Maneuver as a Warblade/Swordsage you'd be forced to select the 5 new ones all from Devoted Spirit of which there would be 7 available so unless you took Martial Study 3 times already you'd be able to learn all 5 maneuvers. I'm guessing this is something like Warblade X/Swordsage Y/Crusader 1 at Lv 9 in which case you'd learn 5 maneuvers level 3 or lower as a crusader. Yes you can't know Mountain Hammer from two classes, or at least that seems the prevalent opinion, but you could learn it as a warblade and use it as a prerequisite for crusader. Not sure exactly what you're asking here. What if, I take the Crusader levels last before entering to Mo9 and I can't choose more maneuvers because they were already in the warblade progression? I'm currently trying to create a new level 10 Human character using Swordsage/Warblade/crusader class to a D&d session, so that he could enter Master of Nine at 10th level.Though,I have a few questions regarding multiclassing through the various martial adepts classes:ġst - Do I have to track seperately all the maneuvers attained by each class?Ģnd - Let's say, I get a maneuver known from a level in master of Nine that both Crusader and Warblade can have,but I choose to add it to the Crusader progression.Can I use the Warblade recovery method ,or only the recovery method of the class I added the maneuver to?ģrd - Supposing the answer to the 1st question turns out as a 'yes', do I have to,each time ready the maneuvers for each of the 3 classes?Since I've heard you can't learn the same maneuver twice as well as readying it,do I have to take that into account when learning and readying the maneuvers?
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